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The DEI Boogyman Part 2: Dog-Eating Myths and 401k Truths: How Fearmongering Shapes America
Send us a text What happens when we allow catchy slogans and fear-based rhetoric to shape our understanding of diversity and inclusion? Rauel and Anto...
April 10th, 2025 - Democracy's Breaking Point: Will We March Into Hell for a Heavenly Cause? - Democratic Representative Al Green stood up during Trump's congressional address and declared "no mandate" when Trump claimed a mandate to cut Medicaid. For this truth-telling, Green was escorted out and later censured—with even ten Democrats joining the rebuke. This incident exposes a disturbing double standard: when Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" at Obama, or when Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly interrupted Biden's addresses, they faced no similar consequences..
April 24, 2025 - The DEI Boogeyman: Myths, Facts, and Why It Matters The weaponization of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion has become one of the most troubling developments in our current cultural and political landscape. We dive deep into how DEI—a framework designed to create more representative and equitable institutions—has been deliberately transformed into a divisive political issue through coordinated misinformation campaigns.
Our Recent Episodes
Thursday, February 10, 2022The Advancement of the Arts Part 1: George Tzougros
There are those that spend their lives in the "arena" fighting and working to make the world a better place. George Tzougros does that with Art and t...
Thursday, February 3, 2022The Turmoil of Trauma - Part 2: Cathy Lins
Part 2 of my Interview with Trauma expert and lay trainer - Cathy Lins. Cathy does training all around the country to help congregations understand a...
Thursday, January 27, 2022The Turmoil of Trauma - Part 1: Cathy Lins
Over 70% of the population has experienced trauma. The events and isolation in 2020 have simply added to the strain on our mental health. Cathy decide...
Thursday, January 20, 2022Hope House - Part 2: Alex Austin and Jamie Sathasivum
Join my guests and I as we further discuss the dynamics of domestic abuse and the resources available for those experiencing it.
Thursday, January 13, 2022Hope House - Part 1: Alex Austin and Jamie Sathasivum
This is the first in my series of "New Year's Resolution" episodes. I wanted to start 2022 with shows that focus on important issues t...
Thursday, January 6, 2022The Exhilaration of Eagles: Jennifer Lazendorf
With Eagle Watching Days just around the corner here in Sauk-Prairie it seemed like a good time to talk about our national bird and pick up some "tips...
Thursday, December 30, 2021Healing with Hope - 2021: Rev. Bill Harris and Brent Miller
Join me as I talk with Bill and County Administrator Brent Miller about a new Career center that is being developed in Sauk County to help teach trade...
Thursday, December 23, 2021A Madison Medley of Merry Music - 2021
Unique music for the holiday season from The Kerosene Kites (Beth and her collaborator Eric Kjelland), Smitty Kringle, Milkhouse Radio, Michael Bryan...
Thursday, December 16, 2021The Heralding of History (Again) Part 2: Paul Wolter
This is actually the first part of the interview with Paul Volter in which we talk about history as an idea and a cause for which people are willing t...
Thursday, December 9, 2021The Heralding of History (Again): Paul Wolter
Join Paul Wolter, the Executive Director of The Sauk County Historical Society, as we talk about the importance of History and maintaining & restoring...
Thursday, December 2, 2021Help for Healthcare Part 2: Todd Wuerger
Todd and I continue our conversation about how foundations help to keep our healthcare infrastructure and personnel the best they can be. Plus he sha...
Thursday, November 25, 2021Help for Healthcare: Todd Wuerger
If you ever wondered who takes care of the care takers, Todd Wuerger can shed some light on that topic in the Healthcare arena.