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Picture this: You're all set to record the perfect podcast episode, but just as the conversation gets going, you realize the camera isn't on. We kick things off with a light-hearted tale of our own technical challenges before diving into the serious issue of climate change, inspired by Wisconsin's unusually warm weather. This episode isn't just about environmental impacts; it's about understanding the human reluctance to face uncomfortable truths and the societal implications when we excuse inappropriate leadership behavior.
Have you ever wondered how political rhetoric shapes our values? We take you on a journey through the complexities of political discourse, with a spotlight on the controversial statements of the current president and the public's response. By examining relationships between divisive figures and their followers, we reveal how race, gender, and power dynamics intersect in today's political landscape. Our discussion is an invitation to critically assess these dynamics and understand the motivations behind aligning with such figures, even if it means challenging your own beliefs.
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00:00:00.059 --> 00:00:00.580 Start again.
00:00:00.580 --> 00:00:04.972 Ready, go, let's have it.
00:00:04.972 --> 00:00:06.724 Hey, let's have it.
00:00:06.724 --> 00:00:09.803 Let's have what we tried to record.
00:00:09.803 --> 00:00:14.071 This and yours truly here, who works in IT.
00:00:14.071 --> 00:00:18.129 Yes, didn't remember to turn all the switches on.
00:00:18.129 --> 00:00:21.344 You know, we wanted to record Last week when we did our first.
00:00:21.344 --> 00:00:22.949 You know, welcome back after hiatus.
00:00:22.949 --> 00:00:24.966 I never got the camera turned on.
00:00:24.966 --> 00:00:32.213 I mean, I could see Antoine, so at least I knew who I was talking to, but I never turned the recording on.
00:00:32.213 --> 00:00:39.094 So you know what kind of you know inexperienced, unprofessional boob you're working with here right now.
00:00:39.094 --> 00:00:41.106 But anyways, how's it going, my man?
00:00:41.106 --> 00:00:41.829 How are you today?
00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:43.883 Everything is great, man.
00:00:43.883 --> 00:00:49.834 Just you know, just enjoyed those few good days of I guess you call it warm weather for January.
00:00:49.834 --> 00:00:55.771 The sun was shining, moved around a little bit, but other than that, man, everything is good.
00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:11.552 Yeah, yeah, I always think of this time of year it's the January thaw, but usually there's about 16 inches of snow on the ground that has to thaw as well, and this year, you know, we've had virtually none in here in wisconsin, especially where I am.
00:01:11.552 --> 00:01:35.572 And uh, I'll tell you, I was reading, uh, we got a calendar this this winter for, or this year from, uh, gosh, I think it's the autobahn or no the international crane foundation and Foundation and they've got all these like creatures and stuff and they talk about how this kind of weather is actually really hard on a lot of the critters because they depend on, like, being able to burrow into snow and using that for insulation in the winter.
00:01:35.572 --> 00:01:43.444 So there might be some varmints that are, you know, appearing in places you wouldn't expect them, just because they're trying to keep warm.
00:01:43.444 --> 00:01:46.212 Baby, you know we're out here in the cold.
00:01:46.212 --> 00:01:50.168 Dude, you want to sit there and complain to me when you're sitting in your Lenox furnace, heated.
00:01:50.168 --> 00:01:52.805 You know, house, don't give me that garbage.
00:01:52.805 --> 00:01:53.447 Come live out here.
00:01:54.703 --> 00:01:56.308 And global warming doesn't exist.
00:02:00.381 --> 00:02:02.043 You know what's that all about.
00:02:02.043 --> 00:02:08.152 We're gonna have to talk about climate change at some point because I I actually have a nephew that is up in alaska right now.
00:02:08.152 --> 00:02:14.592 Uh, recording this is a fun job where he records like temperature, does probes in lakes and whatnot to see what's happening to them.
00:02:14.592 --> 00:02:20.020 And you know we get caught caught up on stuff like oh, we don't know that, that hasn't been going on forever.
00:02:20.020 --> 00:02:21.665 You know we only record temperatures back 100, you know 200 years.
00:02:21.665 --> 00:02:23.050 So how do we know it's like well, yeah, actually we do know there were.
00:02:23.050 --> 00:02:24.235 You know we only record temperatures back 100,.
00:02:24.235 --> 00:02:24.837 You know 200 years.
00:02:24.837 --> 00:02:27.605 So how do we know it's like well, yeah, actually we do know there were.
00:02:27.605 --> 00:02:29.091 You know there were many ice ages.
00:02:29.091 --> 00:02:32.629 In fact, dickens, you know, lived during one when he wrote Christmas Carol.
00:02:32.629 --> 00:02:33.985 So, yeah, I get that.
00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.149 But the thing is it's weird to me.
00:02:37.149 --> 00:02:42.061 It's like the we don't want to accept responsibility, or that we could potentially be responsible in some way.
00:02:42.061 --> 00:02:50.674 We would just assume, you know, like not being responsible is some reason to feel better about it or to deny that it exists.
00:02:50.674 --> 00:02:54.950 It's like, you know, well, I've never had a car accident, so how do I know they exist?
00:02:54.950 --> 00:03:00.350 And then all of a sudden, you have one right in front of you, go, oh, I guess they do happen, but I didn't cause it.
00:03:00.350 --> 00:03:24.335 You know, it's like I don't get the thinking process and all this, but we started talking right before we started this recording adventure and we were talking about the whole idea of our current president and he, he continues to regularly come out and say these outlandish things.
00:03:24.335 --> 00:03:33.560 You know, and and I I think I was relating to how, you know, even on the campaign trail, he, he said things like you know, oh, I love my christians.
00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:38.050 You know, go ahead and vote this time, christians, and you won't have to vote again.
00:03:38.050 --> 00:03:41.182 And you know, that's verbatim, just about.
00:03:41.182 --> 00:03:43.025 I mean, go back and listen and listen, it's, it's still.
00:03:43.025 --> 00:03:44.227 I think it's still out there.
00:03:44.227 --> 00:03:49.955 It hasn't been rescinded, like the constitution has been from whitehousegov Check that out too.
00:03:49.955 --> 00:03:52.802 But there is a.
00:03:52.802 --> 00:03:56.771 There's like a, a tolerance level that's been building up.
00:03:56.771 --> 00:04:07.034 You know, it's like the people that build a tolerance level to arsenic and they can ingest more and more of it ultimately, until you know it would be a dose that would kill somebody else.
00:04:07.034 --> 00:04:12.509 You know boiling frogs, right, the experiments where they keep turning the Bunsen burner up a little bit.
00:04:12.509 --> 00:04:16.040 The frog never gets out until it boils to death, you know.
00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.709 So we're doing the same thing.
00:04:18.819 --> 00:04:21.209 I mean this guy let's just think about this for a second.
00:04:21.209 --> 00:04:26.826 The guy did fellatio with a microphone in front of a whole big group of people and they all laughed.
00:04:26.826 --> 00:04:28.595 They thought that was funny.
00:04:28.595 --> 00:04:36.341 He talked about Arnold Palmer's schlong for something like five, 10 minutes from you know, at a rally, and everybody laughed.
00:04:36.341 --> 00:04:37.663 They thought that was the greatest thing.
00:04:37.663 --> 00:04:40.290 You know, it's just so.
00:04:40.329 --> 00:04:41.312 I think about those things.
00:04:41.312 --> 00:04:48.473 And yeah, you know, if you're hanging out with a bunch of guys or something and you want to talk about Arnie Schlong, you know, let's locker room talk.
00:04:48.473 --> 00:04:49.274 I get it.
00:04:49.274 --> 00:04:54.307 I'm not like you know, oh my God, they talked about a man's penis, you know.
00:04:54.307 --> 00:04:54.769 So what?
00:04:55.160 --> 00:05:00.404 But when you're in front of a group of people, right, and you want them to vote for you, what does that tell you about us?
00:05:00.404 --> 00:05:05.629 That people like Mike Johnson, who are professed Christians, just glossed over that?
00:05:05.629 --> 00:05:07.451 Oh, you know, that's just the way he is.
00:05:07.451 --> 00:05:19.259 So my question today is we know this about the person, and now this week he's come out, we have this horrific accident where what?
00:05:19.259 --> 00:05:27.625 67 people or something like that was killed and instead of coming out right away and saying you know, we're going to investigate this, we're going to find out what happened immediately, we're looking for a scapegoat.
00:05:27.625 --> 00:05:31.267 You know it was Biden and his policies with DEI that caused it.
00:05:31.267 --> 00:05:47.677 I mean, there's been multiple things that have been thrown out there, and so, in all of that, my question is why do we feel it necessary to keep talking about him and getting upset about the idiotic, horrible things he says?
00:05:53.620 --> 00:05:54.564 Because, let's face it, he is an attention slut.
00:05:54.564 --> 00:05:54.824 That's right.
00:05:54.824 --> 00:05:55.487 I said that on our podcast.
00:05:55.487 --> 00:05:55.949 He's an attention slut.
00:05:55.949 --> 00:05:56.771 I don't expect you to say that.
00:05:56.771 --> 00:05:57.293 Repeat that.
00:05:57.293 --> 00:05:58.358 Antoine, you're a pastor.
00:05:58.358 --> 00:05:58.680 You can't.
00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:04.069 But you can say, yeah, my heathen friend Raul that I'm ministering to, he said that word.
00:06:04.069 --> 00:06:05.552 I won't say it, right?
00:06:05.973 --> 00:06:10.732 But I'm going to say it, because that explains it better than just saying he's an attention monger.
00:06:10.732 --> 00:06:13.184 No, he's an attention slut.
00:06:13.184 --> 00:06:14.807 And what do sluts do?
00:06:14.807 --> 00:06:16.730 Right, if any kind of a slut.
00:06:16.730 --> 00:06:28.305 The more you give them attention, the more you listen to their slutty tales, the sluttier they become, because it's like oh well, you like this baby, I got some more sluttiness for you.
00:06:28.305 --> 00:06:42.192 And so my question is can we, should we, how would we avoid talking about the slut and instead talk about, you know, women of character or men of character?
00:06:42.273 --> 00:06:53.166 Let's talk about what are the things that we can do in our communities, because I don't know that nationally, we can do a lot right now, until midterms, and who knows then what we'll do.
00:06:53.166 --> 00:07:01.274 Honestly, the majority of people have to vote, and I don't know that there's a majority yet that can look at that and go, hmm, yeah, don't want that in office anymore.
00:07:01.274 --> 00:07:04.125 So you know, what do we do?
00:07:04.125 --> 00:07:07.382 Do we keep doing that, or do we just say you know what I'm done?
00:07:07.382 --> 00:07:11.175 Let's focus on what we can do here in our community.
00:07:11.175 --> 00:07:14.303 Let's focus on what we can do amongst our friends.
00:07:14.303 --> 00:07:21.665 Let's build a cocoon of compassion and decency and, you know, integrity and care and love.
00:07:21.665 --> 00:07:37.468 You know like the scripture talks about take care of the poor and the needy and the widows, you know, take care of the people that need people caring for them, and ourselves, instead of just getting upset about the Trumpism of the day.
00:07:38.011 --> 00:07:39.434 You know, did you hear what he said?
00:07:39.434 --> 00:07:42.692 Yeah, no, I didn't, and I really would rather not.
00:07:42.692 --> 00:07:43.415 Thank you very much.
00:07:43.415 --> 00:07:48.971 I've got this person that I'm caring for today, an elderly man in the neighborhood who has lost his wife.
00:07:48.971 --> 00:07:50.745 He has, you know, no one around.
00:07:50.745 --> 00:07:51.449 He's so lonely.
00:07:51.449 --> 00:07:54.129 I'm going to go spend a couple hours and just talk with him.
00:07:54.129 --> 00:07:55.584 He's got great stories.
00:07:55.584 --> 00:07:55.987 You know.
00:07:57.860 --> 00:08:09.346 Why wouldn't we do that and what is the danger of doing that, instead of continuing to get our underwear in a bundle because he said, yet again, another predictably horrible thing.
00:08:09.346 --> 00:08:11.975 It's just like he's just back going.
00:08:11.975 --> 00:08:15.809 What is the most horrible thing I can say?
00:08:15.809 --> 00:08:20.524 That will piss off the number of people and they've got some board somewhere, right, that they're figuring out.
00:08:20.524 --> 00:08:30.584 Okay, well, you could say, uh, we're going to change the gulf of mexico to gulf of america, they'll get a big contingency, all upset about that, and they'll just, they'll go be upset about that and we won't have to worry about them.
00:08:30.584 --> 00:08:40.138 I swear to god, he must be doing something like that because it's just so pathologically logical that he is doing the things he is doing.
00:08:40.138 --> 00:08:41.000 All right?
00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:41.620 Well, there I am.
00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:46.032 I've said about my piece, I I'm going to shut up now and let you talk.
00:08:48.706 --> 00:08:59.672 You're fine man and, of course, what the Bible says man from the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks right, and so this person, he is doing nothing but speaking what is truly on his heart.
00:08:59.672 --> 00:09:03.671 And the question was do we continue to listen?
00:09:03.671 --> 00:09:04.703 Can we cut him off?
00:09:04.703 --> 00:09:05.727 Can what do we do?
00:09:05.727 --> 00:09:09.070 We continue to give them attention is almost like we have to.
00:09:09.070 --> 00:09:27.427 Unfortunately, we have to because we have to know what he's trying to do, when he's trying to doing it, because, again, in the first, his first administration, he didn't have the, he didn't have the understanding of the power that he had at the time, but now he does and he has actually equipped himself.
00:09:27.427 --> 00:09:35.975 He's actually put himself in a position to execute all the things that he and Stephen Miller are saying and trying to bring it into about.
00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.570 This week we had a test run on cutting off benefits.
00:09:39.570 --> 00:09:47.188 Right, the very people that voted for him, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh.
00:09:47.188 --> 00:09:50.885 A senior white woman, uh, she was uh, complaining about he's going to cut off my food stamps.
00:09:50.885 --> 00:10:08.368 Well, you voted for him, and but the thing is, uh, you know, and the sad part to say is uh, you know, we've been conditioned to tolerate this nonsense, you know, of course, even over the last time, even the first uh access Hollywood tape came out grab him by whatever right.
00:10:08.368 --> 00:10:17.250 You know, from that day forward we've been being conditioned to tolerate lewdness, lasciviousness and just all this nonsense.
00:10:17.250 --> 00:10:18.393 We've been tolerated to do it.
00:10:18.393 --> 00:10:24.047 And of course now, and even talking with some Trumpers, you know, it's like oh, he don't mean what he say.
00:10:24.047 --> 00:10:25.649 Yeah, he does, he means it.
00:10:25.649 --> 00:10:30.395 And even if he don't know, the sad part is he don't even know what he means.
00:10:30.395 --> 00:10:37.004 He got people in his ear telling him hey, the conservative society, the federalist society, this is what the country should look like.
00:10:37.445 --> 00:10:40.091 Some Christian organizations I don't want to.
00:10:40.091 --> 00:10:51.615 I'm getting to the point where I don't want even want to call them Christians anymore, because they've yielded themselves to the power of the enemy, because they've put an idol on top of themselves.
00:10:51.615 --> 00:10:55.120 They put just like with the Israelites, you know.
00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.148 They say, hey, lord, we're going to trust you, we're going to follow you.
00:10:57.148 --> 00:11:01.390 And before Moses even came down with the law, they were breaking the first two.
00:11:01.390 --> 00:11:11.461 There'll be no other gods before me and don't make any idols, you know.
00:11:11.461 --> 00:11:28.904 And so and so they've created this gentleman as an idol because he does represent what their perceived Ideology of what the country should look like.
00:11:28.924 --> 00:11:30.229 It should be ran by white men point blank in the story story.
00:11:30.229 --> 00:11:30.990 Anything else is intolerable.
00:11:30.990 --> 00:11:37.421 And I hope white women grab this uh and and really take hold of this, because in this white man's world you're supposed to be in the kitchen, you're not supposed to be educated and outspoken and all these different kind of things.
00:11:37.421 --> 00:11:38.948 You're not supposed to be a ceo, you're not.
00:11:38.948 --> 00:11:55.273 So they want to roll back all these different things because again, with the rolling back of the civil rights act, with the voting rights act, all these things, there's clauses in there for white women and women as a whole and you have to really read the whole document to get how this thing affects you.
00:11:56.001 --> 00:11:59.215 And then, of course, going back to the original question should we listen to this?
00:11:59.215 --> 00:12:04.565 Well, mayangelo said when a person tells you who they are, believe, believe them.
00:12:04.565 --> 00:12:13.296 And the thing is, we have to take heed, because I'm not a Fox News person, but I have to tune in to see what's being said.
00:12:13.296 --> 00:12:27.020 I have to see because that way, you know, it's an old analogy, say how the atheist is always ready to debate the Christian, but the Christian is not always ready to debate the atheist.
00:12:27.020 --> 00:12:36.571 So by me tuning in over there, I at least have an idea of what's being said, a thought, some talking points, and I can actually bring some scripture to it.
00:12:37.500 --> 00:12:55.971 But with this gentleman here, everything he's trying to do in church folks or christian, these christian organizations, again I'm I'm trying not to talk down on the church because, uh, you know john bevere, he says, uh, the church is under attack and is under attack by the church, and so.
00:12:55.971 --> 00:13:01.566 But the thing is in, in this is where you know these folks, they're believing him because he fits there.
00:13:01.566 --> 00:13:05.692 He he's that, he is the puppet of their ideology.
00:13:05.692 --> 00:13:13.092 You know, these billionaires have bought him, they're buying, they bought him and they can, they get this.
00:13:13.092 --> 00:13:20.873 He, like you said, you called him, that s word right and he is, he, he, he, he is, uh, he is the puppet.
00:13:20.873 --> 00:13:25.691 A hand is up there because he don't, he don't know how to talk to these things, he don't understand these things.
00:13:26.552 --> 00:13:32.486 Well, you know, he is, he's a fantastic, he's out to the, he's out to the highest bidder.
00:13:32.486 --> 00:13:37.924 And you know, of course, what he wants he wants comfortable, he wants to be rich, he wants to be famous.
00:13:37.924 --> 00:13:40.731 That's that's what his whole, that's what we want his legacy to be.
00:13:40.731 --> 00:13:49.285 But you know, and what people have to realize, is we have to deprogram ourselves to some of this speech.
00:13:49.285 --> 00:13:51.191 We have to say this is no longer tolerable.
00:13:51.191 --> 00:13:54.782 These things, no, this is no longer tolerable.
00:13:54.782 --> 00:14:02.246 These words that are being said, the actions that are being done, the things that are attempted to be committed, they're no longer tolerable.
00:14:02.246 --> 00:14:03.187 When will?
00:14:03.187 --> 00:14:18.291 No, because, like, almost a third of the country voted for him and now they're seeing that they're going to come to the realization they actually got a test run this week, but they're going to come to the realization that they're no different than me.
00:14:18.291 --> 00:14:22.788 They're no different and that's the end.
00:14:22.788 --> 00:14:23.912 They get the test run.
00:14:23.912 --> 00:14:29.825 Like I say this older, she's a somewhat senior white woman Like, oh, they're going to cut off my benefits.
00:14:29.825 --> 00:14:30.808 Well, you voted for this.
00:14:30.808 --> 00:14:33.488 Well, you can't believe what he, he, he don't mean what he say.
00:14:33.488 --> 00:14:34.311 Yes, he does.
00:14:34.311 --> 00:14:36.225 Well, number of understand it.
00:14:36.225 --> 00:14:42.110 And this is the thing we have to understand that it's not him who's talking, it's the people behind him that's talking.
00:14:42.110 --> 00:14:46.796 He's the mouthpiece, because, again, he's just the mouthpiece behind this movement.
00:14:47.135 --> 00:14:48.136 And what is this movement?
00:14:48.136 --> 00:14:50.783 It has been here since the beginning of time White supremacy.
00:14:50.783 --> 00:14:52.422 It's about money.
00:14:52.422 --> 00:14:53.687 This whole thing is about money.
00:14:53.687 --> 00:14:59.753 And it's about power, about power and control.
00:14:59.753 --> 00:15:01.946 Money, power and control.
00:15:01.946 --> 00:15:04.841 With the money comes the power, with the power comes the control.
00:15:04.841 --> 00:15:10.673 And then you do what I say, as you do you're a second class citizen, you're three fifths a part of a person.
00:15:10.673 --> 00:15:14.530 You're, you're this, you're that, this is who you are, this is what you need to be and this is what we want you.
00:15:14.530 --> 00:15:25.346 And we're going to circumvent, we're going to bend the rules, we're going brown America.
00:15:25.346 --> 00:15:30.028 You know voting rights, you know civil rights, you know.
00:15:30.068 --> 00:15:40.615 And then, of course, they're cutting off every avenue of funding to the black, black and brown community, the black and brown business person, the black and brown nonprofit.
00:15:40.615 --> 00:15:45.197 Every avenue of revenue is being cut off as we speak.
00:15:45.197 --> 00:15:46.219 And why?
00:15:46.219 --> 00:15:51.109 Because this is where I this is my thoughts, I think towards you and where you need to be.
00:15:51.109 --> 00:15:59.783 And then, of course and this is where allies really have to stand up, because, dr King, I'm going to paraphrase one of his many famous quotes.
00:16:00.144 --> 00:16:05.014 He said what's going to be remembered is not the voice of the enemy, but the silence of my friends.
00:16:05.014 --> 00:16:12.913 Now, of course, there's friends of our friends that have they are Republican.
00:16:12.913 --> 00:16:18.565 That's just the way it is, hey, because again, you have your ideology, you believe what you believe.
00:16:18.565 --> 00:16:19.147 That's fine.
00:16:19.147 --> 00:16:22.990 And of course, again, I'm a firm believer that something should be controlled by government.
00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:31.187 And then there are some things that you know, we have a birthright to speaking of birthright, no, that threat of that being taken away is being.
00:16:31.649 --> 00:16:34.563 It's been thrown out there and it's just.
00:16:35.024 --> 00:16:53.037 We have to take him at his word, and but not only take him at his word, but we have to really bombard the gates of our, our state legislators, our senators, our congressmen and women and saying this is not what I voted for.
00:16:53.639 --> 00:17:14.644 You know, and again, like we said last week, you know, a lot of people are going to realize that instead of saying, hey, I was wrong about this, I was wrong, they'll let pride swallow them whole, they're going to let the price of insulin go back up to wherever it was and they're going to suffer in silence and die, versus saying I was wrong.
00:17:14.644 --> 00:17:18.780 So we as a people just have to simply say we got to speak up, we got to talk.
00:17:18.780 --> 00:17:24.609 And, of course, as we know that all of these kids, let's go back to pre-january 6th.
00:17:24.609 --> 00:17:39.251 Remember, uh, via george floyd, the black lives matter movement came about and then there was all these laws against even against peaceful protests, all these laws, but january 6th it didn't apply.
00:17:39.251 --> 00:17:49.863 You know, uh, proud, proud boys walking down the streets with guns in Michigan and all these other places Shouldn't apply.
00:17:50.365 --> 00:17:54.046 Right, I mean, that happened, what we're seeing where we had.
00:17:54.046 --> 00:17:55.289 You know, kyle, oh yeah.
00:17:55.480 --> 00:18:12.438 That they actually idolize that young man, and it's just so many things that are so blatant and so contradictory to what the US Constitution says we have and what we are supposed to be as a country.
00:18:12.438 --> 00:18:20.400 But again it just goes to show you that there's a fragment or a fraction of people in this country that they hate.
00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.423 They just flat out hate.
00:18:22.423 --> 00:18:25.556 There's no other word Hate White supremacy.
00:18:25.556 --> 00:18:34.586 It exists, it's real, it's living, it has taken on many forms and fashions over the decades, but it's still here, yeah.
00:18:35.711 --> 00:18:44.500 You know you said something a while back about admitting you're wrong and it made me think about I've talked about it many times.
00:18:44.500 --> 00:19:17.640 You know I've been married, for we're coming up on 39 years in August and one of the hardest things in that 39 years has been when we're in the heat of an argument and you know I'm sure that I'm right and she's usually is right, that you know it becomes a matter of I can't possibly admit I was wrong now because you know what happens the next?
00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:22.784 time we get into you know I'm going to she's going to be able to say you said you were wrong before.
00:19:22.784 --> 00:19:24.286 Why aren't you wrong now?
00:19:24.286 --> 00:19:26.086 You know I mean my imagination.
00:19:27.671 --> 00:19:29.732 And that's the legal, and that's why it's funny.
00:19:29.732 --> 00:19:33.116 You just said that the very thing, because, of course, the cut the.
00:19:33.116 --> 00:19:43.840 You know, our country is based on laws and so the law has a precedent and so if this precedent reigns and rules, this law or precedent may be in your favor.
00:19:43.840 --> 00:19:53.780 However, if you say you know what I was wrong about, how my, my stance or my position was on that thing, rather than say we were wrong like you, like, you're just using that analogy.
00:19:54.385 --> 00:20:24.340 You know, brother, when it comes to our wives, we're wrong almost all the time, and just I have to say too, those times when I have, you know, bit the bullet and said, um, and it took quite a while, I mean, I probably is something I've only been able to do, maybe in the past five years or so is to, you know, come back either in the midst of it and just kind of start breathing and thinking, okay, okay, you've gone far enough here, or, you know, get calmed down and then come back.
00:20:24.340 --> 00:20:34.160 But when I have been able to come back, when I have chosen that's the important when I have chosen to come back and say, you know what, sweetheart, I was wrong.
00:20:35.251 --> 00:20:36.195 How freeing is that?
00:20:36.309 --> 00:20:39.038 What you were saying and you were really right.
00:20:39.038 --> 00:20:47.796 And maybe it's just because the kind of woman my wife is, she doesn't lord that over me and you know, and become like high and mighty about.
00:20:47.796 --> 00:20:49.902 Well, I knew I was right all along.
00:20:49.902 --> 00:20:55.201 You know there's none of that, but what it has done is strengthen our relationship.
00:20:55.201 --> 00:21:06.423 It's made me slowly because I'm a man slowly realize that fessing up and admitting that I'm wrong really isn't that painful.
00:21:06.423 --> 00:21:07.525 It is humbling.
00:21:07.525 --> 00:21:08.506 How freeing is it?
00:21:08.506 --> 00:21:11.941 Well, very much so, because all of a sudden you're free to exist.
00:21:11.941 --> 00:21:15.813 The fact that I'm not always right, I can't always be right.
00:21:15.813 --> 00:21:17.473 I need to know more.
00:21:17.473 --> 00:21:26.862 And that's probably where our media, all kinds of things, get it wrong is we need to know more Instead of just immediately saying what is it?
00:21:27.662 --> 00:21:33.946 Mark Twain's famous saying right, you know, believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.
00:21:33.946 --> 00:21:34.770 You know.
00:21:34.770 --> 00:21:40.146 And that becomes more and more of an issue with the media, because they can tell you.
00:21:40.146 --> 00:21:43.557 You can show who, what, where, how and when.
00:21:43.557 --> 00:21:44.861 You can show those things.
00:21:45.623 --> 00:21:48.979 This is what happened, this is where it happened, this is how.
00:21:48.979 --> 00:21:51.272 These are the things that led up to it happening, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:51.272 --> 00:22:03.439 But the minute you start getting into why it happened, you better really do some research, because you need to understand both the parties that were involved and what they were thinking, what was going on, why they did what they did.
00:22:03.439 --> 00:22:05.614 And then you need to understand your own.
00:22:05.614 --> 00:22:08.119 Why are you seeing it the way that you see it?
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:09.502 Because we have biases.
00:22:09.502 --> 00:22:15.442 You know, we'll look at two people fighting and think that you know, well, he's obviously right, she's wrong, you know no.
00:22:15.442 --> 00:22:16.805 And a woman will look and go what?
00:22:16.805 --> 00:22:18.930 She's obviously right and he's wrong.
