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Welcome to Frame of Reference - Talking about topics that matter - Listening for ideas that will change our world.

Coming up on Frame of Reference:

  • Dec 5th, 2025 - Canadian Snipers, Hard Choices, Honest War Stories - A rifle on a rooftop isn’t a movie moment—it’s a profound responsibility. We sit with retired Canadian Army sniper Barry Nisbet and author and former U.S. Army Ranger Mir Bahmanyar to unpack what snipers really do when deployed to places like Bosnia and Afghanistan and why their new book, Send It, pushes past the myths of their missions and duties.
  • Dec 19th, 2025 - Trust, Community, And A $25,000 Promise - A massive heart attack at 2 a.m., a choice to stay, and a vow to be useful—John Stewart Hill turned a brush with death into a movement that protects homeowners and celebrates great tradespeople. I sat down with John, founder and chief ambassador of The Good Contractors List, to unpack how a third-party guarantee and serious vetting can transform an anxious, two-way agreement into a safer, more respectful partnership.
  • Dec 24th, 2025 - CHRISTMAS EVE SPECIAL!!! - For YEARS I have wanted to do a Christmas Eve Podcast and this year I'm doing it!! So if you're looking for a new tradition that you can play in the background while you sit down to eat or open presents, this is the place.  I'll be playing my favorite contemporary versions of classics like Frosty the Snowman, Joy to the Word and Oh Come all Ye Faithful, plus some songs you've perhaps never heard about, but are good tunes with great lyrics.  I'll be filling you in on some of the stories behind the songs and their artists as well, so . . . join us!

Our Recent Episodes

Thursday, May 6, 2021 The Legacy of The Land: Buddy Huffaker - Part 1

In this episode I talk with Buddy Huffaker the Executive Director of the world renowned Aldo Leopold Center. Buddy is funny, knowledgable amd passion...

Thursday, April 29, 2021 The Heritage of Horticulture: Jane Stevens - Part 2

Part 2 of my interview with Jane Stevens an accomplished entrepeneur and Horticulturalist with a deep apprecation and understanding of all things gree...

Thursday, April 22, 2021 The Heritage of Horticulture: Jane Stevens - Part 1

Jane Stevens is an accomplished entrepeneur and Horticulturalist that has a deep apprecation and understanding of all things green. Join us for insig...

Thursday, April 15, 2021 The Reverence of Remembrance: Carol and Steve Stevenson - Part 2

Part 2 of my interview with Carol and Steve Stevenson.  Still "sweethearts" (after 30 + years), but after both having very successful careers they use...

Thursday, April 8, 2021 The Reverence of Remembrance: Carol and Steve Stevenson - Part 1

Carol and Steve Stevenson are preservationists of the highest order.  Still "sweethearts" (after 30 + years), but after both having very successful ca...

Thursday, April 1, 2021 Torchbearers for Teenagers - With Kyle Crosby

So let's admit it. When many of us think of Teens, one of the first descriptive words that can come to mind is, unfortunately, "Difficult".  We do so ...

Thursday, March 25, 2021 The Recollection of Recreation - With John Lehan

Recreation is one of those words that can seem super serious or somewhat frivolous depending upon your perspective.  It comes from a late Middle Engli...

Thursday, March 18, 2021 The Fortitude of Farmers - With Alana Voss

The Physical and Mental well being of today's Ag producers is perhaps more critical today than ever before.  As our nation has changed from a primaril...

Thursday, March 11, 2021 The COVID Connection - With Dr. John McAuliffe - Part 2

Part 2 of my discussion with John McAuliffeIf about Health care ( a topic that is intricately woven into the fabric of our families and communities) a...

Thursday, March 4, 2021 The COVID Connection - With Dr. John McAuliffe - Part 1

If you want to have a discussion about Health care and how COVID has affected that as well as the very fabric of our communities, Dr. John McAuliffe i...

Thursday, December 31, 2020 Healing with Hope - Rev. Bill Harris and Nathan Tolliver

On a chilly winter morning in 2012, Bill Harris, the founder of People Helping People, watched a group of homeless men leave the Baraboo Warming Cente...

Thursday, December 24, 2020 Christmas Carols with Jerry Apps and the Prairie Spies

Normally at this time of year, I would've recorded a special show called "A Very Merry Sauk Prairie Christmas as I have for the past 5 years.  But ala...

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