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Welcome to Frame of Reference - Talking about topics that matter - Listening for ideas that will change our world.

Coming up on Frame of Reference:

  • Dec 5th, 2025 - Canadian Snipers, Hard Choices, Honest War Stories - A rifle on a rooftop isn’t a movie moment—it’s a profound responsibility. We sit with retired Canadian Army sniper Barry Nisbet and author and former U.S. Army Ranger Mir Bahmanyar to unpack what snipers really do when deployed to places like Bosnia and Afghanistan and why their new book, Send It, pushes past the myths of their missions and duties.
  • Dec 19th, 2025 - Trust, Community, And A $25,000 Promise - A massive heart attack at 2 a.m., a choice to stay, and a vow to be useful—John Stewart Hill turned a brush with death into a movement that protects homeowners and celebrates great tradespeople. I sat down with John, founder and chief ambassador of The Good Contractors List, to unpack how a third-party guarantee and serious vetting can transform an anxious, two-way agreement into a safer, more respectful partnership.
  • Dec 24th, 2025 - CHRISTMAS EVE SPECIAL!!! - For YEARS I have wanted to do a Christmas Eve Podcast and this year I'm doing it!! So if you're looking for a new tradition that you can play in the background while you sit down to eat or open presents, this is the place.  I'll be playing my favorite contemporary versions of classics like Frosty the Snowman, Joy to the Word and Oh Come all Ye Faithful, plus some songs you've perhaps never heard about, but are good tunes with great lyrics.  I'll be filling you in on some of the stories behind the songs and their artists as well, so . . . join us!

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Part two of my interview with John Lehan, Community Education and Recreation Director for the Sauk Prairie Community Center.  John returns to "Fr...

Thursday, April 21, 2022 The Recognition of Recreation: John Lehan

John Lehan returns to "Frame of Reference" to once again remind us of all the ways that we can pause and celebrate life by just relaxing and...

Thursday, April 14, 2022 Le Cœur de la Conservation - Part 2: Curt Meine

Part 2 of my conversation with Professor Meine. Curt Meine is a conservation biologist, environmental historian, and writer based in Sauk County, Wis...

Thursday, April 7, 2022 Le Cœur de la Conservation: Curt Meine

Curt Meine is a conservation biologist, environmental historian, and writer based in Sauk County, Wisconsin.  He serves as Senior Fellow with the Aldo...

Thursday, March 31, 2022 The Romance of Radio: Kory Hartman - Part 2

Kory worked directly for The Weather Channel for almost 2 years before going back to his original love, radio, in 2017 when he purchased Baraboo Broad...

Thursday, March 24, 2022 The Severeness of Storms: Kory Hartman

In this interview, Kory and I go all the way back to his teen years in Iron River Michigan and trace his roots as a radio personality as well as his f...

Thursday, March 17, 2022 The World of WE - Part 2: David Lippiatt

Part 2 of my discussion with David Lippiatt as we talk about how his organization, WE International is working to assist women and children all over t...

Thursday, March 10, 2022 The World of WE - Part 1: David Lippiatt

Find out about a unique organization called WE International and its mission as well as how it's co-founder and CEO is trying to make the world a bett...

Thursday, March 3, 2022 Expertise in Emergencies-Part 2: Jeff Jelinek

Part 2 of my extremely enjoyable and educational discussion with Jeff Jelinek.  Jeff and I have "known of" each other via an organizations and friends...

Thursday, February 24, 2022 Expertise in Emergencies: Jeff Jelinek

Who do you want available when a calamity strikes? Someone like Jeff Jelinek. A man with a calm demeanor and a wealth of experience. Listen in to m...

Thursday, February 17, 2022 The Advancement of the Arts Part 2: George Tzougros

What moves and shakes and motivates and inspires communities all around our state and the nation? Art does and if you want to know how and why this i...

Thursday, February 10, 2022 The Advancement of the Arts Part 1: George Tzougros

There are those that spend their lives in the "arena" fighting and working to make the world a better place. George Tzougros does that with Art and t...

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